vietnam and cambodia

COMMUNITY TRIP 10/29 - 11/12 2023

You are invited to join us on the next Center for International Experiential Learning (CIEL) Community Trip to Vietnam and Cambodia from 10/29 to 11/12, 2023. We are offering this trip in two parts: A ten-day trip to Vietnam first (10/29 to 11/8), followed by five more days in Cambodia (11/08 to 11/12).

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More than four decades after the Second Indochina War (1955-1975), known to Americans as the "Vietnam War" and to Vietnamese as "The American War" or "The Resistance War against America," there is much to be learned from Vietnam and its regional and global impact. Some of the issues that our travel and pre-trip education will explore include the effects of colonialism and imperialism under Chinese rule (111BC to 938AD) and French colonial rule (1858-1954), as well as Vietnam's colonial projects in Cambodia and its contemporary relationship with China.

We will examine the impact these historical and current events have had on Vietnamese national identity, how this history is reflected and told in the country, and what we can learn from it. We will also examine the legacy of Vietnam's civil wars and foreign interventions, including the role of the U.S. both during and after the war and why Americans are still being welcomed in the country. We will also address issues of Vietnam's reunification after the ‘fall’ or ‘liberation’ of Saigon, post-conflict economic devastation and reform, and how Vietnam has dealt with the issue of refugees and how this has impacted ongoing questions of reconciliation across diverse perspectives, especially with the younger people growing up after the war (more than half of which are under 35 years old). And to offer a comparison, we will travel to Cambodia to learn about its history and how it intersects with the story of Vietnam.

Itinerary

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Our trip will start in Hanoi, the capital of Vietnam, with excellent international flight connections. Hanoi has much to offer: a beautiful old city and many important museums and monuments. Guided by Professor Kevin Pham, a Vietnam expert and scholar of Ho Chi Minh’s political thought, we will explore how the vision for an independent and unified Vietnam was developed here by “Uncle Ho” and his associates.

As Hanoi is the political center of Vietnam, we will also engage the questions of current developments and international/regional relations here and meet with government officials, regional experts, and Communist Party and/or military members. A visit with the U.S. embassy and NGOs working on regional questions is also planned. The city is very walkable and scenic. We will have opportunities to explore some of the rural areas around Hanoi and many opportunities for personal explorations during our free time.

On the morning of November 2nd, we will fly to Hue in the country's center. Here we will visit the imperial city and palace (World-Heritage Site), explore the roots of Vietnamese identity, and learn how it continues to shape Vietnamese thinking today. We will also experience the famous gastronomic scene here. The next day we will take the bus and explore nature and the countryside in this beautiful part of the country. And we will connect with the local population and environmentalists. We will end in Hoi An, the famous UNESCO World-Heritage City, for some time to relax and explore.

On Saturday, November 4th, we will fly to Ho Chi Minh City (formerly known as Saigon, although locals use both names interchangeably) and have four days in this buzzing metropolis. Besides being the former capital of South Vietnam (Republic of Vietnam), it is also the business and financial hub of the country and a well-known center for the arts.

Through our partnership with Fulbright University Vietnam and Professor Yen Vu, we will get a unique opportunity to engage with the younger population, who comprise most of the country's population. A staggering 70%+ of the Vietnamese were born after the end of the Vietnam War (which Vietnamese commonly call the Resistance War Against America). As the epicenter of U.S. presence during the war, we will also explore the legacy and current sentiments of the Vietnamese toward the U.S. and other former colonial powers. We will meet with veterans of the conflict on the Vietnamese and the U.S. side.

The second part of the trip will start on Wednesday, November 8th, when we will fly to Siem Reap in Cambodia and continue to the famous world heritage site of the Angkor Wat temple complex. We will explore this magnificent site and other local monuments for two days and continue learning about the relationship between Cambodia and Vietnam and its critical role in history.

Before taking our bus to Cambodia’s capital Phnom Penh and visiting the site of the Killing Fields on the way, we will learn about Vietnam’s invasion of Cambodia, which ultimately stopped the genocide there. Comparing how the two countries reflect on the same period of time, their relationship to the U.S. (and the West in general), and towards each other will be instructive as we finish our trip and reflect on our learnings.

Again, many good international flights leave from Phnom Penh back to the U.S. (or other international locations). We will depart on November 12th.

PART 1 VIETNAM

Sunday Oct 29th - Wednesday Nov 8th 2023

**If you wish to arrive earlier or stay longer, we can extend your hotel reservation**

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Accommodation - Luxury and Boutique Hotels Vietnam

Vietnam

  • Four nights in Hanoi (most likely at the Chi Boutique Hotel - the highest-rated boutique hotel in the city in a great location – superior rooms with a view)

  • One night in Hue (most likely at the Ancient Hue Garden House - a beautiful hotel in a historic building)

  • One night in Hoi An (most likely at the La Siesta Resort and Spa – a 5-star hotel within walking distance of UNESCO Heritage Old Town)

  • Four nights in Saigon (most likely at the Myst Dong Khoi – a 5-Star hotel with celebrated modern architecture/design)

Aerial view of a rural area with terraced rice paddies, small houses with colorful roofs, and winding dirt roads surrounded by green hills and forests.

Expected Costs

$4,950 per person in double occupancy. Single occupancy and upgraded rooms are available at an additional cost. The trip will be capped at 20 full-time participants to provide an intimate atmosphere.

Includes:

  • 11 days (10 nights) hotel and breakfast (in double occupancy)

  • All meals during the program (excluding alcohol, which can be purchased separately)

  • Transportation throughout the trip (including flights from Hanoi to Hue and from Hoi An to Saigon)

  • All guides, speakers, coordination, and entrance fees to sights, theater, and other events Assistance with arrival and departure transfers plus Covid/health protocols

Excludes:

  • Travel to Hanoi and from Saigon

  • Meals and transportation during free time

PART 2 cambodia

Wednesday Nov 8th - Sunday Nov 12th 2023

**If you wish to arrive earlier or stay longer, we can extend your hotel reservation**

Aerial view of a swimming pool surrounded by green trees and residential buildings.

Accommodation - Luxury and Boutique Hotels cambodia

Cambodia

  • Two nights in Siem Reap (most likely at the Anjali by Syphon – an eco-resort with a tranquil atmosphere next to Angkor Wat)

  • Two nights in Phnom Penh (most likely at the iRoHa Garden Hotel & Resort - an award-winning centrally located boutique hotel)

Sunset view of Angkor Wat temple complex reflected in a calm body of water, with palm trees and visitors walking around.

Expected Costs

$1,950 per person in double occupancy. Single occupancy and upgraded rooms are available at an additional cost. The trip will be capped at 20 full-time participants to provide an intimate atmosphere.

Includes:

  • 5 days (4 nights) hotel and breakfast (in double occupancy)

  • All meals during the program (excluding alcohol, which can be purchased separately)

  • Transportation throughout the trip (including the bus ride from Siem Reap to Phnom Penh)

  • All guides, speakers, coordination, and entrance fees to sights

  • Assistance with arrival and departure transfers plus Covid/health protocols

  • Travel to Siem Reap from Phnom Penh (if not participating in Vietnam Trip (Part 1), we will deduct the travel costs)

Excludes:

  • Travel from Phnom Penh

  • Meals and transportation during free time

A young man with glasses, wearing a blue sweater, a light blue shirt, and a maroon tie, standing in front of a bookshelf filled with books and plants.

Dr. Kevin Pham

A woman with long dark hair smiling at the camera, wearing a dark shirt and a colorful statement necklace against a plain background.

Dr. Yen Vu

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Dr. Daniel Wehrenfennig

Expert Guides

Reservations

To reserve a spot on the trip (for the whole trip or either part), email us at contact@cielglobal.org.

A $1000 deposit is requested. Once 20 people are confirmed (on a rolling base), people will be added to the waiting list.

  • Final Payment is due by October 1st, 2023.

  • Travel insurance will be at your discretion through your sources.

  • Check - Please make check out to “CIEL Community Trip” and send it to the Center for International Experiential Learning (CIEL), 1312 1⁄2 Montana Street, Los Angeles, CA 90026

  • PayPal/Zelle – We can set up payment by PayPal (this will incur an extra transaction fee) or Zelle (direct bank-to-bank transfer for qualified banks through multiple payments) – please inquire if you are interested.

Payments can be made by:

Pre-trip preparation meetings

It is important that we get to know each other and prepare for this unique experience. We encourage everyone to come to the in-person planning meetings for all travelers, which will commence in May/June 2023 in the Orange County area. If this is not practical for you, there will be options to join via Zoom, and we are happy to talk with you individually and bring you up to date.

Resources to prepare for the trip

A recommended reading list for confirmed travelers will be provided along with other resources. For further information, you can contact CIEL Executive Director Dr. Daniel Wehrenfennig via Email (wehrenfennig@cielglobal.org) or phone (323-788-1603).

We look forward to sharing this experience with you.

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